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Using Fuel Additives at Higher Dosages - Overdosing

by Andy Published on Friday, March 13th, 2015

A question I am regularly asked is whether fuel additives can be added at a higher dose or added to less fuel in order to make a stronger concentrate, and whether this is more beneficial.

The answer in most cases is no. This is because additives are specifically designed to work with a certain amount of fuel. This ensures that any deposits are removed and dispersed in a controlled manner and that too many deposits aren’t purged through the system at once.

Polyetheramine-based cleaners, for example, work much better when treating the correct amount of fuel (i.e. a full tank of fuel) and allowing the chemistry to gradually remove deposits in a controlled way. If you add a cleaner designed for sixty litres of fuel to ten litres of fuel, not only do you run the risk of removing deposits too quickly but you also lose the benefit of the extended duration that sixty litres will provide.

The reason for this is that many additives are designed to work with fuel flow where the actual action of removing deposits requires the fuel to be in motion. Therefore, deposits are removed layer by layer as the fuel is moving through the system. The stronger the concentrate – and the less fuel that is treated – the lesser the amount of total motion that occurs.

Therefore, do not be tempted to treat with a much higher concentrate except when professionally instructed to do so and when, for example, a heavily-contaminated fuel injector requires urgent attention. In this instance some cleaners can be safely added directly to the fuel rail or fuel filter. However, this is a procedure that should be carried out by a professional and is not really relevant to in-the-tank fuel cleaners.

Another question we are regularly asked is why some additives require a lot of product, whereas others require such a small amount?

An example we’ll use here is a high-strength cleaner, such as Archoil’s AR6400, which requires 400 ml to treat a full tank, versus their fuel conditioner AR6900-D MAX, which is treated at a ratio of 1,000 to 1. 400ml vs 50ml.

So, why is this?

Different chemistries work in different ways. High-strength cleaners in particular generally require a much larger volume of chemistry, polyetheramine being one of them. Such cleaning power requires volume.

Some fuel conditioners act differently as there are nano-detergents that will provide an effective clean over a gradual period of time but with substantially less volume. For comparison, if you added AR6400 or AR6400D concentrate (or a similar product) to a full tank of fuel, you would start to notice a difference within ten to twenty miles of driving if there were excessive fuel system deposits. That is how quickly some concentrate cleaners work. With a fuel conditioner such as AR6200 or AR6900, noticeable improvements might take a few tanks. Rapid cleaning requires a volume of chemistry. Gradual cleaning, however, can be achieved at a nano level. Although cleaning takes long, it requires a very small amount of chemistry.

The concept behind AR6900 was very simple and this, we believe, should be the objective of all fuel conditioners – To deliver as many benefits as possible with the smallest amount of product possible.

Archoil has succeeded in producing a product that does as much as it possibly can at the nano level. This includes protecting against water, fuel contamination and corrosion, lubricating and cleaning the fuel system, removing carbon through the use of the catalyst, and improving the quality of combustion to improve MPG, etc. All of these benefits are achieved at the nano level; therefore, only a very small amount of the product is required.

What AR6200 or AR6900 cannot do is clean rapidly or provide additional anti-waxing protection because these processes require much higher volumes of chemistry. Also, the additives in these products are not necessarily about the chemistry themselves. The chemistry is there to deliver a process. Imagine adding a couple of drops of concentrated black dye to a bath of clean water. You will find that that dye will disperse very quickly and make the water black or gray depending on the amount of dye. AR6200 works in a similar way. It disperses very quickly, delivers a process, and produces the benefits that are described.

Andy

14 thoughts on “Using Fuel Additives at Higher Dosages – Overdosing”

Stu Robinson says:

August 10, 2019 at 6:15 pm

I HAVE A 200 LITRE TANK ON MY BOAT WHICH I KEEP FULL TO PREVENT CONDENSATION , I AM INTENDING TREATING THE TANK WITH 1200ML OF AR6400 THEN ADD 1 DOSE AR6900 D MAX AFTERWARDS.

CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM IF I WILL ACTUALLY OVERDOSE ON AR6400.

MANY THANKS

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1. Andy says:
  
  August 11, 2019 at 4:36 pm
  
  That is too much product and will deliver to much cetane for a marine engine. Use AR6900-D on its own at 1,000:1.
  
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Chris says:

June 14, 2019 at 1:38 pm

Hi, can I use ar 6900d and 6400d at the same time? Bmw f10 530 with egr code, have already run ar6400 which seemed to cure after whole tank then came back after 4 months.

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1. Andy says:
  
  June 14, 2019 at 2:29 pm
  
  No, will deliver far too much cetane and engine is likely to run worse. Use AR6900-D at double dose for a tank or 2.
  
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Alberto Badas says:

June 5, 2018 at 9:37 am

Can I use the Archoil AR6400-P Max additive in a diesel engine?
I bought it wrong I can not return because I live in Italy.

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1. Andy says:
  
  June 26, 2018 at 11:35 am
  
  It could be used at 1/2 dose. However, the detergent will not be as effective and there is no benefit of a cetane increase.
  
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Peter Collins says:

June 7, 2017 at 5:00 pm

I have been advised by our club online (Peugeot 407 Club } to add 3000mltrs of two stroke oil on filling the tank.In your opinion is this advisable.

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1. Andy says:
  
  June 9, 2017 at 9:43 am
  
  Hi, I will be writing a more detailed article on this shortly. We don’t recommend 2S oil in with fuels as virtually all of them, including the mineral variety, contain ZDDP additives. ZDDP acts as a friction modifier and will suppress noise substantially, hence the perceived benefit. However, just because the engine sounds better doesn’t mean that it is good for the engine. ZDDP WILL deposit in the fuel system, injectors, combustion chamber and post combustion areas. It is also very toxic to emission control components hence why it is limited in low SAPS oils. I have researched this thoroughly with the hope of releasing a suitable, low cost 2S additive for exactly this use and discovered the risks did not justify the benefits. OBD computers may see an increase in MPG but this is due to the effect friction modifiers as well as other additives can affect fuel flow and thus fool the on-board computer when measuring injector cycles to calculate MPG usage. Actual MPG difference was zero when calculated manually. There are many things I can add to a fuel system or engine oil that will make the engine sound wonderful but will cause short, medium or long term damage.
  
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richard says:

September 6, 2016 at 4:07 pm

I have two VWs each with a 1.6 turbo diesel injection engine producing 105 bhp. One Golf one touran. At only 46,000 miles one is showing a Exhaust gas recirculating valve warning. diagnosis is sticking EGR which needs expensive replacement. Garage did suggest try fuel additive treatment first as repair is awkward adding to labour as well as expensive parts. What do you suggest?

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1. Andy says:
  
  September 8, 2016 at 11:12 am
  
  Hi, I would recommend having the EGR cleaning manually. They do not have to be replaced. Then service the engine with a high quality oil and regular use of AR6900-D Max in with the fuel.
  
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chris says:

April 19, 2016 at 12:41 pm

how much archoilar6400 should i put in as doesnt say as want to just keep adding when filling up or do i tip whole bottle straight in tank as no messurments on bottle

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1. Andy says:
  
  April 20, 2016 at 3:09 pm
  
  Hi, it states on the label that 1 full bottle will treat between 43 and 86 litres of fuel (or between 1:100 and 2:200). Unless you have a small fuel tank (i.e. under 43L) then you can use the whole bottle.
  
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Mervyn says:

December 15, 2015 at 8:42 pm

Hi, will this product work on my 1000cc motorcycle? It is a Kawasaki Z1000, using a bank of four carbs. it is hard to start and doesn’t work properly on choke. Thanks

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1. Power Enhancer says:
  
  December 17, 2015 at 10:09 am
  
  Hi, yes, use a 100ml bottle of AR6400. This will remove all fuel system, carb and combustion deposits.
  
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